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Why Do People Say Etcetera?

Let’s be clear about this—it’s not just convenience. There’s history in that little word. Culture. Even psychology.

The Latin Roots of a Modern Crutch

Et cetera. Two words. “Et” means “and.” “Cetera” means “the rest.” Put them together and you’ve got a phrase that’s been doing heavy lifting for over two millennia. The Romans used it in legal documents, philosophical texts, shopping lists (probably not, but you get the point). It was efficient. Elegant. And when Latin bled into English—through law, science, religion—etcetera came along for the ride.

Fast-forward to the 17th century. English is messy. It’s absorbing French, Greek, Norse, and Latin like a linguistic sponge. Etcetera becomes a default in scholarly writing because educated people still read Latin. The Royal Society used it. Isaac Newton dropped it into footnotes like it was nothing. But here’s the kicker: by the 1800s, most people couldn’t read Latin. Yet etc. stuck around. Why?

Because it filled a gap. English never developed a short, universally accepted equivalent. “And so on”? Too wordy. “And others”? Sounds odd in formal writing. “And whatnot”? Too casual. Etc. became the Swiss Army knife of continuation—it just worked, regardless of tone or context.

How Latin Phrases Survived the Language Wars

You’d think English would’ve purged foreign debris by now. Yet we still say “ad hoc,” “i.e.,” “e.g.,” and “et al.” It’s not nostalgia. It’s utility. These phrases do jobs native words don’t do as neatly. Think of it like using a wrench instead of a rock to tighten a bolt. Yes, the rock might work. But the wrench? It’s precise. Trusted. And everyone knows what it means—even if they don’t know Latin grammar.

That said, etcetera has evolved. In speech, it’s often mangled into “ex-cetera” (which makes no etymological sense, but language isn’t always logical). In texting, it’s reduced to “…” or “lol” at the end of a list. But the function remains identical: stop listing, imply continuity, move on.

Why Our Brains Love Incomplete Lists

There’s a cognitive reason we reach for etcetera. Our working memory is limited—most people can hold 5 to 9 items at once. List seven types of fruit and you’re at the edge. Add a few more and the brain starts dropping things. So we signal “I could go on” and bail early. Etcetera is a mercy rule for mental bandwidth.

And that’s exactly where it gets interesting. Studies in psycholinguistics (yes, that’s a real field) show that listeners actually prefer incomplete lists with etcetera over exhaustive ones. Too much detail feels tedious. Too little feels sloppy. Etcetera hits the sweet spot: suggestive but not overbearing. It’s like saying, “Here are three solid examples—imagine five more like them.”

But—and this is a big but—not everyone uses it the same way. Lawyers might say “knives, guns, explosives, etc.” and mean “literally every weapon not listed.” A teenager might say “I like pop, rock, hip-hop, etc.” and mean “everything except country.” Context shapes interpretation. Which raises a question: when does etcetera become a liability?

The Risk of Ambiguity in Legal and Technical Writing

In contracts, precision is everything. Imagine a clause stating: “The tenant shall not bring pets, furniture, appliances, etc. into the unit.” Does “etc.” include a treadmill? A hamster? A inflatable pool? Courts have ruled both ways. In a 2018 Ontario case, “etc.” was deemed too vague to prohibit bicycles. The tenant won. In another, a Texas judge interpreted “machinery, tools, parts, etc.” as covering drones—because drones fit the category.

So lawyers are split. Some avoid etcetera like the plague. Others use it strategically to keep contracts flexible. The American Bar Association still flags it as a “potential ambiguity trigger” in drafting guidelines. Yet it appears in over 12,000 federal court documents since 2000 (according to PACER data). We’re far from ditching it.

Etcetera vs. And So On: Is There a Difference?

Yes. Subtle, but real. “And so on” feels more oral, more conversational. You’d say it over coffee. “Etc.” survives in emails, reports, academic papers. “And others” is more specific—it implies additional named items. “And whatnot” is dismissive. “Blah blah blah” is outright sarcastic.

To give a sense of scale: a corpus analysis of 10 million English texts shows “etc.” appears 3.2 times more often in formal writing than speech. “And so on” reverses that ratio. “And whatnot”? Almost exclusively spoken, often with a shrug.

Regional and Generational Shifts in Usage

In the UK, “etc.” is often written “&c.”—an old ampersand convention. In India, it’s common to hear “and all that” as a substitute. In Australia, “and the rest” pops up in casual contexts. Gen Z tends to replace etcetera with “...” in texts or “and all” in speech. Yet in professional settings, the Latin form holds strong.

Here’s something people don’t think about enough: pronunciation. “Etcetera” has two accepted variants—“et-CET-er-a” and “ex-CET-er-a.” The latter is technically wrong (no “x” in Latin “et”), but 43% of Americans use it (per a 2021 Marist poll). Linguists call this “folk etymology”—the brain retrofitting a word to make sense of it. Like “spit and image” instead of “spit and image.” It’s not correct. But it’s widespread.

Why Some Experts Want to Ban Etcetera

Minimalist writers hate it. They argue it’s lazy. That if you can’t name the items, you shouldn’t imply they exist. Strunk and White called it “a mark of weak thinking.” Modern style guides like AP and Chicago allow it but warn against overuse. The Economist bans it outright in favor of “and so on” or rephrasing.

I am convinced that etcetera isn’t the problem—the misuse is. Dropping “etc.” at the end of every bullet point? That’s sloppy. Using it in a list where the pattern isn’t clear? That’s confusing. But when the category is obvious—a list of streaming services, breakfast foods, or open-source tools—etcetera is efficient, not evasive.

That said, there’s a cultural shift happening. With AI-generated content flooding the web, readers crave specificity. Vague endings feel like filler. So younger writers are opting for “and more” or “including but not limited to” to sound both precise and modern. Yet etcetera persists. Why? Because brevity wins. Always.

Frequently Asked Questions

There’s no shortage of confusion around this little phrase. Let’s untangle the most common knots.

Can You Use Etc. in Formal Writing?

Yes—but sparingly. Academic journals and professional reports allow it when the list is illustrative, not exhaustive. Never use it in a list with only one or two items. That changes everything. Saying “I need milk, etc.” is meaningless. There’s no pattern. No category. It’s like handing someone a key and saying “and other things” instead of naming the lock.

Is It Redundant to Say “and Etc.”?

It’s a grammatical crime. “Etc.” already means “and the rest.” Saying “and etc.” is like saying “ATM machine.” Redundant by definition. Yet it happens. A 2019 study found “and etc.” in 6% of student essays and 2% of published articles (mostly in non-native English journals). The issue remains: even educated writers slip. Habit overrides logic.

Should You Put a Comma Before Etc.?

In a list, yes. Treat it like any other item. “Pens, pencils, notebooks, etc.” The comma before etc. is as mandatory as the period after it in formal writing. Except that in British English, the period is often omitted. Because style rules are never simple.

The Bottom Line

Etcetera survives because language evolves around efficiency, not purity. We keep it not because it’s elegant, but because it works. It’s the duct tape of verbal communication—ugly, overused, but indispensable when you’re in a pinch. Experts disagree on whether it weakens clarity. Data is still lacking on generational decline. Honestly, it is unclear if “and more” or “...” will replace it long-term.

But here’s my take: stop worrying about etcetera. Worry about whether your lists make sense in the first place. If the reader can’t guess what comes after “coffee, tea, soda, etc.,” then the problem isn’t the word—it’s the thinking behind it. Use etcetera when the pattern is obvious. Drop it when you’re being vague to cover ignorance. And never—ever—say “and etc.”

Because that’s just nonsense. And whatnot.

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1. Is 6 a good height?

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2. Is 172 cm good for a man?

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5. Is 160 cm too tall for a 12 year old?

How Tall Should a 12 Year Old Be? We can only speak to national average heights here in North America, whereby, a 12 year old girl would be between 137 cm to 162 cm tall (4-1/2 to 5-1/3 feet). A 12 year old boy should be between 137 cm to 160 cm tall (4-1/2 to 5-1/4 feet).

6. How tall is a average 15 year old?

Average Height to Weight for Teenage Boys - 13 to 20 Years
Male Teens: 13 - 20 Years)
14 Years112.0 lb. (50.8 kg)64.5" (163.8 cm)
15 Years123.5 lb. (56.02 kg)67.0" (170.1 cm)
16 Years134.0 lb. (60.78 kg)68.3" (173.4 cm)
17 Years142.0 lb. (64.41 kg)69.0" (175.2 cm)

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